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Question of the Day: Glen Cove's 2012 Budget

What do you think of the newly adopted city budget?

Mayor Ralph Suozzi and the Glen Cove City Council during a public meeting at Tuesday.

The new budget includes a .58 percent increase in residential property taxes, and 2.44 percent in commercial property. This is down from .75 percent, and 2.61 percent, respectively. For the average home worth $465,000, property taxes will increase just over $17 per year.

What are your thoughts on the new budget? How do you feel about the cuts? Did the city make most necessay ones? Tell us in the comments.

robert October 27, 2011 at 06:56 PM
I find it a bit silly at best, disingenuous at worst, to refer to a smaller hike as a "decrease" in any way shape or form. I'd also point out that if you're trying to get people to buy 465,000 dollar homes in Glen Cove, telling them that their property taxes will increase 2.5 percent each year over the course of a decade is troublesome.
Elena DiMarco October 27, 2011 at 07:59 PM
Very interesting comment, Robert. Thank you for your input!
John Cocchiola October 27, 2011 at 08:16 PM
A small hike being labeled a decrease is typical for government. It's like setting out to gain twenty pounds, only gaining fifteen, then telling everyone you lost five.
John October 27, 2011 at 10:14 PM
Well that small increase is going to cost me plenty. The "smart" assessors decided my house was worth more than I could not sell it for at the previous assessement so I am now literally need to do a fire sale.......OK not so drastic but abandoment is getting more and more of a realistic option. I think the assessors and/or the "City" should be required to put their money where their mouth is and be ready to buy out anyone who calls their bluff!!!!!!!! Buy me out at your value/offer please, please, please and please and I will be gone as soon as the money is in my accout, so help me God.
John October 27, 2011 at 10:26 PM
I know........those people I am referring to are trapped in their houses which no one is fool enoguh to come in Glen Cove to buy.....hence abandoment is the only solution...yes, it will hurt us more than you, but damm you.
Elena DiMarco October 28, 2011 at 07:11 AM
Hi John, my apologies. I did not mean to delete one of your comments. The touchpad on my MacBook is very sensitive. I encourage conversation, and appreciate your input.
David October 28, 2011 at 03:43 PM
That's what we get for having a mayor that doesn't even own a house!
Paul Copeland October 28, 2011 at 04:35 PM
As a homeowner, do you get an important tax deduction? Yes, you do. This significant reduction in your taxes is not available to renters. The mayor not owning a house is totally irrelevant!
robert October 28, 2011 at 06:38 PM
It's relevant because he's not compelled to answer for it. He can simply pick up and move if needs be. Any one who owns a home doesn't have that luxury. It creates a situation where the only way you can attract new people to a town is by giving them special tax treatment, and when you do that the burden just gets passed on to the long time residents, business people, etc.
Paul Copeland October 28, 2011 at 07:14 PM
The mayor is not picking up and moving. Why would you say that? That can't be the example for your argument. Has there been any special tax treatment to attract new people?
John October 28, 2011 at 07:43 PM
Paul & Robert, if we introduce the tax deduction of a renter vs. a homeowner and analyze the minutees we will get even hungrier of our trapped situations. Sufficient to say that a family elsewhere has a minimum standard deduction of $ 11,400 on their Federal Return even if directly or indirectly (renter) their property taxes are $ 800! We are subsidizing the rest of the USA and Shumer wants to keep on sacrificing more of our hard earned income to curry favors in the senate. On the state and local level we have major issues due to our cost of living, on the federal level we are loosers big time. Ie. Federal poverty level for a family of 4 is $ 22K and change which in Kuntucky one can be upper middle class in Glen Cove a family of 4 with that income can barely pay for rent. And don't forget deductions are subject to the law of deminishing returns as it starts getting reduced and all the way to zero for our upper middle class....yes, there are so many reason to trap us in our houses we cannot sell due to hard to find suckers! Sorry for the tangent point.
Kristina S. Heuser October 24, 2012 at 02:37 PM
I find it problematic that the City keeps implementing the same budgeting process year after year in spite of the Comptroller calling them out on it. It is further evidence that the Mayor feels like he can do anything and no one is going to get in his way. Specifically, what the City does is not budget for certain anticipate expenditures and/or budget revenues that are unrealistically high so that the budget appears to be balanced on paper and the Mayor can pat himself on the back for a balanced budget. The truth is though (and you do not have to take my word for it, you can look at the letters sent to the City by the Comptroller) that the budget does not include the amount that the City has to pay each year in tax certs, which means that the City plans in advance to borrow the funds needed to cover this expense, thereby driving us further into debt. The City also did not budget last year or this year for the full amount of termination pay that the City will have to pay to retiring police officers in spite of being on notice of these officers' impending retirement. So, again, the City plans in advance to borrow these funds, thereby increasing our debt. The City also last year seriously over-estimated (or purposefully misstated) the amount of aniticpated revenue from building permits. Now this year's budget has a shortfall there as well as in many other areas where the same practice was employed. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that the citizens of this
Kristina S. Heuser October 24, 2012 at 02:39 PM
City need to make a change in the leadership. What goes on is truly unconscionable and until people use the power of their votes, we will just see more of the same.
Kristina S. Heuser October 24, 2012 at 02:46 PM
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/audits/cities/2012/glencove_br.htm

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