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NYSED: Glen Cove Schools Will Get $7M in State Aid

Projections released Friday say Glen Cove school district aid will increase six percent.

Glen Cove's school district will likely see more than $7,000,000 in state aid for the 2012-13 school year, an increase of almost half a million dollars from this year, according to the New York State Education Department.

NYSED estimated Friday that the district has $7,269,460 in state aid coming their way next year. Glen Cove's aid will increase by about six percent compared to last year's numbers.

"The numbers released today are the state aid 'runs,'" explained NYSED's Jonathan Burman. "[They are] the amount of money the legislature and Governor have agreed…to send to the individual school districts."

While Glen Cove is expecting more funds than last year, some schools in Nassau will see a decrease in their state aid. Mineola could lose over $27,000 in aid, a .62 percent drop compared to last year, Newsday reported. Levittown may take a more than $370,000 hit, shaving .83 percent off their 2011-12 aid. Syosset's numbers were above Nassau's average increase of 4.1 percent.

"These are the only numbers that will be coming from the state," said Burman. "...districts still have to propose and pass their local budgets."

For Glen Cove, state aid is an important piece of the financial puzzle in lieu of the district's budget decisions, although the board has already indicated it will not raise its tax levy significantly more than two percent.

A special April 16 school board meeting is set to handle further budget talks.

tj April 04, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Sigh.......
Vin NY April 04, 2012 at 11:38 PM
So will my school taxes go down? Will they improve the school district? Will they let those actually attending pay their fair share? My guess is NO to all three questions.
Suzanne Anderson April 05, 2012 at 12:07 PM
My child is in GC schools, getting a good education and I can assure youI pay my fare share of taxes on time every time.
KV April 05, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Don't people understand that even if you're kids aren't attending your district schools, it's still in your best interest for EVEYONE that lives there to pay school taxes?!!!!! Good school district=good property values! This crap about "those attending should pay their fare share" is so aggrevating! If the schools are bad & not providing what our kids need then these same kids are less likely to succeed. You ignorant people that don't want to pay school taxes will be the same ones bitching about "the youth of today" & their lack of motivation or success! Get over it!
Tom Terrific April 05, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Talk about ignorance! The issue isn't whether everyone in a district should pay school taxes; the issue is >>how much<<. You said, "Good school district=good property values!" Then why did property values rise EVERYWHERE on LI from 1998 to 2007? Why are they falling everywhere now? You said, "This crap about 'those attending should pay their fare share' is so aggrevating!" Oh yeah...Why? Why shouldn't those who directly utilize the resources pay a proportionately greater share than those who don't? Finally, you said, "You ignorant people that don't want to pay school taxes will be the same ones bitching about "the youth of today" & their lack of motivation or success! Get over it!" You totally misrepresent the argument on taxes -- probably deliberately -- while swinging wildly for the fence with your speculations and generalizations.
John Cocchiola April 05, 2012 at 02:04 PM
I live on a nice block by the High School, there are boarded up homes on my block, some vacant for two years, so tell me about property values. This is the first time since we've been keeping track that the property values in the United States have declined in four consecutive years, but our property taxes keep rising and government keeps asking for more, the high taxes and high costs of living are forcing some of the most productive people out of the state. Twenty years ago, New York accounted for 19% of the country's population, now we're below 7%, we had almost 50 congressmen, we'll have 27 next year. How much of what we earn are the schools entitled to? How much of what we earn is government entitled to? As more and more of us leave, who will pay for it? Like most government run entities, schools are wasteful, bloated and top heavy with administrators. If they're not overhauled and made more efficient, we're in for some bad times. We'll get what we deserve.
lookyloo April 05, 2012 at 04:50 PM
If anyone here thinks that the Glen Cove School District is a selling point or is keeping our values up, they are wrong. Taxes are up, values are down. My school taxes went up almost $700 last year. When is enough going to be enough? Although this article actually makes the board look magnanomous saying they are not seeking much more than 2%, the fact is they CAN'T. They are asking for the maximum amount they are allowed to after the passage of the tax levy cap. Hey, thanks for that. I remind the board that it is a CAP not a MANDATE. The current system is unsustainable. We can not continue to heap increasing tax burdens onto properties already declining in value. Until the pension and benefit package of the teachers and administraters is addressed, we will not see any significant relief andl the system will crumble. Nice to know that these administraters and teachers will have such wonderful pension and benefit packages...but no kids to teach as more and more people leave Long Island in their rear view mirror.
Suzanne Anderson April 05, 2012 at 08:08 PM
I urge everyone to attend a school board meeting before stating facts that are not true. The BOE is in fact allowed to put forth a budget of well over 3% (the state changed their minds) and are mindful of our community with staying within the 2% originally mandated by the state and by being fiscally responsible the district will be able to maintain the integrity of our educational/extra curricular programs unlike MANY of our neighboring communities.
lookyloo April 05, 2012 at 08:19 PM
In actuality, I don't believe we yet KNOW the percentage "over two" they are going to inflict on us. Any increase is too much. The real problems of over administration and the unsustainalbe pension and benefit programs have to be addressed. The tax payers pockets are picked clean.
Tom Terrific April 05, 2012 at 08:55 PM
Maybe it's time for them to actually cut student services to the bare minimum. In this way, the spotlight will shine brightly on what's left: Contractually mandated salaries and benefits for administration, teachers, and staff; and retiree benefits going to 80K+ pensioners who high-tailed it out of here for the Carolinas and other locales down South. Yeah, it's now precisely the right time for parents to focus their attention on these cost drivers and stop blaming their rightfully pissed-off neighbors who have had it with the incessant annual increases in school taxes. As far as I'm concerned, it will be a fine day when the parents, the PTAs, and the entire school community turn against each other in one big imbroglio. Why? Because it just might signal the beginning of some real reform in this unsustainable system built on a foundation of sand. Let's, indeed, make the issue about the viability of little Alistair's lacrosse program versus whether or not some 80K+ teacher-retiree should pay more for his or her health coverage. Why not?! That's what it's all coming down to anyway. It's time for the discussion to begin.
Tom Terrific April 05, 2012 at 09:32 PM
@Suzanne Anderson: I don't know how to break this to you, but if something is a fact it is also a truth. So if someone is stating facts, they are stating things that are true, by definition. Don't presume that nobody but you knows what's going on, or that people with a differing opinion are not attending board meetings. Anyway, here's the law as outlined by Newsday: The cap limits tax increases to 2% or the rate of inflation, whichever is less. Certain costs are exempted: Increases in pension contributions over 2% and debt service on voter-approved construction and renovation projects. [Voters: take heed on what you approve] Districts that stay within the allowed limits can win passage of a budget by a simple majority vote. Those districts that exceed the limit need a 60% super majority of the vote to pass their budgets. [Voters: take heed] Districts that fail to win approval twice in a row (a joke in itself) must freeze taxes at the current level. [Voters: take heed] To all eligible voters: Don't ever be deceived into believing that your vote doesn't matter. It matters more NOW than it ever did.
Suzanne Anderson April 05, 2012 at 09:37 PM
In fact...the BOE did vote not to surpass 2% at the last meeting!!!! And pensions, mandates ans such are all discussed - folks, attend BOE meetings, know the budget proposed and know the candidates - yes there are 3 seats available this year. Does everyone commenting know that?
Tom Terrific April 05, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Yeah, well, they did exactly what they SHOULD do. They're following the spirit of the law as expressed by Gov. Cuomo. And, yes, I attend board meetings. So I know the matters being discussed.
Micah Danney April 05, 2012 at 10:03 PM
That's right. There are all sorts of exemption factors that would allow the levy to be increased significantly. A board member stated that the district's actual cap was 2.38 percent as it is calculated based on different circumstances. The board was polled and a majority voted to stay at two percent, with members citing the community's economic strain and the original promise of that number. At one point they asked residents in attendance if they should stick to two percent, to a resounding "Yes."
lookyloo April 05, 2012 at 10:48 PM
In fact, I recall last week's Patch article that reported that the Board was afraid the the ignorant tax payers would not understand the tax levy law and believe that they could not go beyond 2%. They therefore decided to forgo bilking us for the extra .38% which was allowed rather than risk a no vote on the budget.
Jeanne April 13, 2012 at 12:33 PM
The fact that the entire country's property values have dropped and that there are boarded up homes in Glen Cove is an entirely separate issue from the current school tax issue. It remains true that by supporting good schools, we do help to keep our property values relatively higher. Certainly, we do ourselves no good by destroying our schools. Unfortunately, the existing political and financial conditions are the perfect storm to destroy public schools. Let's picture it for a moment: Public schools are underfunded so badly that people who can afford it either move, or go to private schools. Those who can't are left to suffer completely inadequate schooling. Drop out rates increase dramatically, crime too. Our yearly school taxes are really the best deal in taxes. At least you know the money goes to your local kids and community. I know it's harder to fight against the sales tax, the other portion of your property tax, the income taxes and easy to vote down the school budget, but please recognize it is done at the expense of your own town and community and the children of your family, friends and neighbors. A picture of an America where only the wealthy can educate their kids is dangerous to our democratic system. We must educate the public, all of them. It is not a matter of just paying for your own children.
lookyloo April 13, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Glen Cove School District is doing nothing for your property values. It is underperforming and has been for years, especially in English which newsday rated it extremely low. I think you're mistaken to believe that throwing more and more money at a serious problem is doing anything for the kids. We are just feeding the machine of overadminsiration, bloated administrative salaries, and unsustainable pension system. How much of our budget actually gets to the kids? Until we fix the problems we are just feeding the broken system and not increasing the value of the education provided to the kids.
John Cocchiola April 13, 2012 at 01:01 PM
After the productive, tax paying people leave, who will be left to pay the school taxes? Industry is leaving Long Island, one of the reasons is the high property taxes. When Grumman bugs out, or when LIPA moves, or Photocircuits goes out of business, it puts more of a burden on the people that stay, who will move because of the heavier burden. If we keep it up, Long Island will get exactly what it deserves, we're already getting it. We have cities and municipalities all over the country going bankrupt because they took tax payers for grated, and they killed the golden goose. Keep it up and see what happens. Furthermore, I speak with quite a lot of kids graduating from our schools, I employ them, a lot are in college now. A good percentage of them can't write, can barely read or solve the most simple math problems without a calculator. I asked a group of Glen Cove High graduates (3, all attending college) what significant event happened at Pearl Harbor in 1941, not one could tell me. Not one. They knew something happened, but they couldn't say who attacked us let alone why or what it all started. They couldn't even come close. Thirty years ago, not only wouldn't they have been in college, they wouldn't have graduated High School. They're not stupid kids, they're kids that never learned anything. I'm not blaming the teachers, I'm blaming the Bureaucracy, and I've spoken to quite a few teachers who completely agree with me, off the record of course.
lookyloo April 13, 2012 at 01:05 PM
Glen Cove isn't under funded! For the cost per head of each child in Glen Cove schools, we could send them all to a quality private school. The budget is larger than that of many countires!!! Stop with the underfunded nonsense! What we need is reform and accountability. The waste, greed, and unaccountability in the system is crazy.
Tom Terrific April 13, 2012 at 03:47 PM
Such a tired and worn out argument. Okay Jeanne, let's put the chips on the table. Let me ask you what you believe the schools should actually get and whether there should be any limits at all. So, for this argument, let's base it on a percentage of one's income, okay? What percentage of one's income should go to the public schools? 10%? ... 25%? ... 50%? ... More? C'mon, let's hear what you have to say.

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