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Tell Us: Should Glen Cove Ban E-cigarettes in No-smoking areas?

New concerns emerge about the safety of electronic cigarettes.

Glen Cove Mayor Reginald Spinello. Credit: City of Glen Cove
Glen Cove Mayor Reginald Spinello. Credit: City of Glen Cove

Should electronic cigarettes be banned in no-smoking areas? Glen Cove Mayor Reginald Spinello said yes, according to Newsday.

The city is considering how to word a resolution that would include e-cigarettes in its  ordinances that spell out where smoking is not allowed, Newsday reported.

Thoughts to prohibit e-cigarettes in non-smoking areas come at a time when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are reporting that the number of calls to poison centers involving e-cigarette liquids containing nicotine rose from one per month in September 2010 to 215 per month in February 2014.

These findings have raised concerns about e-cigarettes around the country.

“The hope is that when we talk about ‘no smoking’ they should say that includes e-cigarettes, too,” Spinello told Newsday.  
john davidson April 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM
Here’s a brief history of the antismoking madness (Godber Blueprint) over the last few decades. The first demand for a smoking ban was in the late-1980s concerning short-haul flights in the USA of less than 2 hours. At the time, the antismokers were asked if this was a “slippery slope” – where would it end? They ridiculed anyone suggesting such because this ban was ALL that they were after. Then they ONLY wanted smoking bans on all flights. Then the antismokers ONLY wanted nonsmoking sections in restaurants, bars, etc., and ensuring that this was ALL they wanted. Then the antismokers ONLY wanted complete bans indoors. That was all they wanted. At the time, no-one was complaining about having to “endure” wisps of smoke outdoors. While they pursued indoor bans, the antismokers were happy for smokers to be exiled to the outdoors. Having bulldozed their way into indoor bans, the antismokers then went to work on the outdoors, now declaring that momentary exposure to remnants of smoke in doorways or a whiff outdoors was a “hazard”, more than poor, innocent nonsmokers should have to “endure”. Then they ONLY wanted bans within 10 feet of entrance ways. Then they ONLY wanted bans within 20 feet of entrance ways. Then they ONLY wanted bans in entire outdoor dining areas. Then they ONLY wanted bans for entire university and hospital campuses and parks and beaches. Then they ONLY wanted bans for apartment balconies. Then they ONLY wanted bans for entire apartment (including individual apartments) complexes. On top of all of this, there are now instances where smokers are denied employment, denied housing (even the elderly), and denied medical treatment. Smokers in the UK are denied fostering/adoption. Involuntary mental patients are restrained physically or chemically (sedation) or multi-day solitary confinement rather than allow them to have a cigarette – even outside. In some countries there are also compounded extortionate taxes. At each point there was a crazed insistence that there was no more to come while they were actually planning the next ban and the brainwashing required to push it. The incessant claim was that they were not doing “social engineering” (prohibition) when the current antismoking crusade has been so from the outset, just like pretty well every previous antismoking crusade. There has been incessant (pathological) lying and deception. Many medically-aligned groups have been committed to antismoking – their smokefree “utopia” – since the 1960s, and are also in the pay of Pharma companies peddling their useless “nicotine replacement” products. They have prostituted their medical authority and integrity to chase ideology (this is exactly what occurred in the eugenics of early last century). All of it is working to a tobacco-extermination plan run by the WHO (dominated by the American “model”) and that most nations are now signed-up to (Framework Convention on Tobacco Control).
john davidson April 22, 2014 at 10:09 PM
The current antismoking crusade, very much in the eugenics tradition – involving the same personnel and methodology, is much like crusades over the previous 400 years. It is a moralizing, social-engineering, eradication/prohibition crusade decided upon in the 1970s by a small, self-installed clique of [medically-oriented]mfanatics operating under the auspices of the World Health Organization and sponsored by the American Cancer Society (see the Godber Blueprint http://www.rampant-antismoking... ). This little, unelected group, using much the same inflammatory rhetoric of its fanatical predecessors, decided for everyone that tobacco-use should be eradicated from the world – for a “better” (according to them) world. These fanatics were speaking of secondhand smoke “danger” and advocating indoor and OUTDOOR smoking bans years before the first study on SHS: In the 1970s, populations – particularly in relatively free societies – weren’t interested in elitist social-engineering, particularly by a group (medically-aligned) that had a horrible recent track record (eugenics). Given that their antismoking crusade would have otherwise stalled, the zealots conjured secondhand smoke “danger” to advance the social-engineering agenda, i.e., inflammatory propaganda. Until only recently the zealots claimed they weren’t doing social engineering, that they weren’t moralizing. Well, that’s a lie that’s been told many times over the last few decades. The zealots’ goal this time is not to ban the sale of tobacco but to ban smoking in essentially all the places that people smoke (combined with extortionate taxes). Up until recently the social-engineering intent has been masqueraded as protecting nonsmokers from secondhand smoke “danger”. But even this fraud can no longer be hidden in that bans are now being instituted for large outdoor areas such as parks, beaches, campuses where there is no demonstrable “health” issue for nonsmokers. This dangerous mix of the medically-aligned attempting social engineering is a throwback to a century ago. We seem to have learned nothing of value from very painful lessons of only the recent past.
john davidson April 22, 2014 at 10:09 PM
Mag01 • an hour ago It’s America that’s popularized antismoking insanity – again, and which other countries are following suit. The problem with Americans is that they are clueless to even their own recent history. America has a terrible history with this sort of “health” fanaticism/zealotry/extremism or “clean living” hysteria – including antismoking - that goes back more than a century. Antismoking is not new. It has a long, sordid, 400+ year history, much of it predating even the semblance of a scientific basis or the more recent concoction of secondhand smoke “danger”. Antismoking crusades typically run on inflammatory propaganda, i.e., lies, in order to get law-makers to institute bans. Statistics and causal attribution galore are conjured. The current antismoking rhetoric has all been heard before. All it produces is irrational fear and hatred, discord, enmity, animosity, social division, oppression, and bigotry. One of the two major antismoking (and anti-alcohol, dietary prescriptions/proscriptions, physical exercise) crusades early last century was in America. [The other crusade was in WWII Germany and the two crusades were intimately connected by physician-led eugenics]. The USA has been down this twisted, divisive path before. Consider the following: The bulk of claims made about smoking/tobacco were erroneous, baseless, but highly inflammatory. Unfortunately, the propaganda did its destructive job in the short term, producing mass hysteria or a bigotry bandwagon. When supported by the State, zealots seriously mess with people’s minds on a mass scale. http://www.americanheritage.co... http://community.seattletimes.... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm...
eileen A. April 22, 2014 at 11:55 PM
this is all so out of control. E-Cigs... give me a break. regular cigs....give me a break too! maybe i missed somelaw or something, but when did TOBACCO become illegal? where are the smokers rights. you think glen cove would be alot more concerned with the human waste flowing into cresent beach for years, then lousy ecigs. Betcha the human waste will kill first. even my grandad is from a communist country says it feels like usa is getting the same way. (except in the communist country you can smoke. LOL) and another thing tnnt, what is YOUR beef with the hooka in town. that store owner has every right to run his business, as he sees fit. all you people on this site lately are the ones that run just about anyone out of business around this area. maybe it should just stay a ghost town forever. and by the way...if you ever go into "that hooka joint" why don't you introduce yourself to the owner who is a lovely gentleman.


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